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Swine Flu and Public Transit
Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:40 PM  

 

Young couple standing up on train, holding poleCommuters who ride public transit are rightfully concerned about catching swine flu.

In New York, a woman who didn't cover her mouth while coughing caught the ire of another woman. The two launched into a screaming match, the cougher spat on the other woman, and she in turn, pulled the hair of the cougher, dragging her to the floor of the train.

Lawrence Delevingne blogged about the incident on The Business Insider, saying he restrained the second woman so the cougher could exit the train. He later caught the flu.

Transit agencies nationwide are reassuring riders that their buses and trains are disinfected - and urging commuters to practice good hygiene.

Here at METRO, we clean the inside of our trains every night, wiping them down with a non-toxic disinfectant. The environmentally-friendly, hospital-grade disinfectant is used to wipe surfaces inside the trains, including door pushbuttons, window surfaces, back-of-seat handles, floor-to-ceiling and seat-to-ceiling poles and overhead grab bars and handles, said Romeo Calderon, director of rail maintenance.

"Our established disinfectant and cleaning practices are consistent with reducing the spread of virus and influenza, whether H1N1 or not," said Calderon.

Bacteria can thrive on surfaces for hours or days, depending on the humidity, Laura Baumgartner, a microbiologist analyzing subways, told Mass Transit magazine. Germs typically live longer on plastics than on metal subway poles and station handrails.

What can riders do to protect themselves? Woman sneezing into tissue

Cover your mouth and nose when you sneeze or cough. If you don't have a tissue, cough or sneeze in the crook of your elbow. Avoid touching your eyes, hands or mouth. Carry hand-sanitizing gel or disinfectant wipes.

Wash your hands often with soap and water, especially after sneezing or coughing. Sing "Happy Birthday" twice while your scrub. If you're not near a sink, use an alcohol-based hand gel. Rub your hands until the alcohol dissipates.

If you have flu-like symptoms - a fever, plus a cough or sore throat -  stay home and don't ride the bus or train until you are fever-free for 24 hours. Read more on prevention and treatment of swine flu at WebMD.

The Texas Health and Human Services department has compiled the latest information on swine flu at http://www.texasflu.org/, including the availability and distribution of the swine flu vaccine.

Comments

Cedric Collins said:

"Commuters who ride public transit are rightfully concerned about catching swine flu.  In New York, a woman who didn't cover her mouth while coughing caught the ire of another woman."

Mary?  In the blog, Lawrence Delevingne said that "Maybe it was swine flu, maybe not."  That tells you that he doesn't know for sure if the "cougher" (as he called that person) had the swine flu or maybe just the regular flu.  All the while, nobody should be fighting with one another just because you're being told to cover your mouth.  Ridiculous, IMHO.

As long you're being told what to do in a nice tone and not add anything to your statement which will add fuel to the fire (especially if the person you're talking to is not in a good mood at the moment), great.

# November 5, 2009 4:03 PM

Mary Sit said:

Cedric,

Delevingne wrote an update saying he later caught the flu. He didn't specify whether it was swine flu. Neither did I.

# November 5, 2009 4:56 PM

HoustonHater said:

@Cedric Collins

Well I'm sick of Houston and it's Metro!!!

1900(SHAME)!!!

@Mary Sit

This isn't important. Get up Mary.

# November 5, 2009 8:21 PM

DominicMazoch said:

Closed spaces on such a place as a tram or bus IS a very good place for virus exposure.  

My suggestion to the clean up crews at the ROC and BOF's is to spray some sort of Lysol into the A/C intake ducts.  Will gill germs and some other orders which could affect air quality.

# November 5, 2009 8:52 PM

Cedric Collins said:

Mary,

That's NOT what I'm trying to get at.  The moral of what I'm trying to get at is whether not the "cougher" had a regular flu or the swine flu.  Thanks!

HoustonHater,

That's nice.

Dominic,

Your suggestion wouldn't hurt.  I wonder if anybody at METRO will consider that.

# November 6, 2009 8:38 AM

Cedric Collins said:

"He didn't specify whether it was swine flu. Neither did I."

Mary,

That's what I'm trying to get at---in addition to my last comment.  Now---what really caught my attention was the last three words of your statement.  I didn't say that you specified anything, now did I?

# November 6, 2009 9:47 AM

HoustonHater said:

@Cedric Collins

Mary isn't even real.

@MarySit

Swine Flu or Houston Metro? I don't know which one is worse.

I pick the latter of the two.

# November 6, 2009 2:15 PM

Cedric Collins said:

HoustonHater,

YOU DOPE! How can tell me Mary isn't real, HUH?!  I've met Mary on several occasions---IN PERSON.  Yup---you need REAL help there.  Maybe YOU ARE NOT REAL---how about that?!  Sorry I can't be the one to help you.  I have a life, thank you!

Yes, you're more contagious than Swine Flu---or even West Nile Virus.

# November 6, 2009 7:26 PM

HoustonHater said:

@Cedric Collins

In person huh? So you talk to cardboard cut outs? I'm very real. Real enough to know this swamp of a city is no home for an enlightened person like me. If you call defending Houston at all cost "A LIFE"; I question the validity of your existence too. Last but not least. I'm contagious to Houston.

# November 6, 2009 11:53 PM

DominicMazoch said:

Well, there is one thing about this blog.  I can read it and have as much fun as watching Tom and Jerry cartoons.  Tex Avery would understand!

# November 7, 2009 12:01 AM

don y said:

I have had my doubts about Metro cleaning their busses but this morning I rode a NO. 1 at about 6:45 am and it really did shine, even the floor. Probably won't stay that way too long with the clientele that Metro has but it was nice to ride a clean bus for a change.

# November 7, 2009 7:54 AM

HoustonHater said:

@DominicMazoch

What’s funny is Metro not putting MCI D4500 buses on the 163 route.

@don y

It's Public Transit. Inquire to Metro to place MCI D4500 buses on the 163. Or the 137.

# November 7, 2009 6:40 PM

Cedric Collins said:

HoustonHater,

You have a very serious problem and I think you really need to take care of it like ASAP!  Also, you---enlightened person?  LMAO!!!!  Keep dreaming, kid!  If you're real, prove it!

"@DominicMazoch

What’s funny is Metro not putting MCI D4500 buses on the 163 route.

@don y

It's Public Transit. Inquire to Metro to place MCI D4500 buses on the 163. Or the 137."

FALSE!  Whatever buses are on those routes are fine as is.  SORRY!

# November 8, 2009 1:15 PM

HoustonHater said:

"You have a very serious problem and I think you really need to take care of it like ASAP!  Also, you---enlightened person?  LMAO!!!!  Keep dreaming, kid!  If you're real, prove it!"

<HoustonHater Will make an appetence in Houston this month.>

"FALSE!  Whatever buses are on those routes are fine as is.  SORRY!"

<MCI/NewFlyer 45ft buses should be on all 100+ Limited routes.>

# November 8, 2009 1:34 PM

DominicMazoch said:

It seems the buses coming out of F BOF are Vickings for the 108.  However, those from NW are 40' NF's.

The other day I did see a 4400 on the 163.  That one has the better seats.  I do believe routes from 100-299 need the better seats.  But on the 100's, a 4700-5102 is overkill.  Can't be THAT difficult to move the seats from the retired 4400's to the LF NF's.

# November 8, 2009 8:18 PM

Henry Ramsey said:

You mention that METRO cleans the trains nightly what about the busses? The new hybrid-electric busses have fabric covered seats.  What is being done so that germs that make their way into the fabric doesn't spread disease? I know these busses aren't cleaned daily; there are far too many to be cleaned that it would be impossible. In my humble opinion it was shear lunacy to order fabric seats to begin with.

# November 8, 2009 10:55 PM

Cedric Collins said:

"<HoustonHater Will make an appetence in Houston this month.>"

OK---whatever.  Moving on........

"<MCI/NewFlyer 45ft buses should be on all 100+ Limited routes.>"

False.  I say again---whatever buses are on those routes (whatever route I do ride and/or would like to ride) are fine as is.  SORRY!

# November 9, 2009 6:23 AM

HoustonHater said:

@DominicMazoch

"The other day I did see a 4400 on the 163.  That one has the better seats.  I do believe routes from 100-299 need the better seats.  But on the 100's, a 4700-5102 is overkill.  Can't be THAT difficult to move the seats from the retired 4400's to the LF NF's."

<The D4500's are better suited to those limited routes than AN460As or D/DE40LFs. It won't be overkill to see a 45ft bus on the 163. It'll be appreciated.>

"False.  I say again---whatever buses are on those routes (whatever route I do ride and/or would like to ride) are fine as is.  SORRY!"

<D4500s on the 137 and 163. After this Metro can run the 2X9 P&R(Higher Frequency of course) routes instead of the individual lot buses. Turn the 170 into 275.>

# November 9, 2009 12:14 PM

JamesL said:

For the most part I've found METRO's cleanliness perfectly acceptable - with one exception. Hair product on the windows! The cloudiness where people rest their heads is GROSS.

# November 9, 2009 9:29 PM

HoustonHater said:

@JamesL

But smells good. If your nose is close to it.

# November 10, 2009 1:50 AM

J. Liggins said:

The 137 and 163 (which used to be interlined several years ago) run through the ghetto.  You'll never see a new MCI on those routes.  The trash (those used up 4400 artics) they handed off to Hiram Clarke to run on the 163 are a disgrace.  The 137 hasn't had a soft seater since the occasional Kashmere Mercedes would pop up back in the 90s.

# November 10, 2009 7:25 AM

Cedric Collins said:

HoustoHater,

No.

# November 10, 2009 7:54 AM

Cedric Collins said:

"For the most part I've found METRO's cleanliness perfectly acceptable - with one exception. Hair product on the windows! The cloudiness where people rest their heads is GROSS."

DING, DING, DING, DING, DING!  Unfortunately, that's on the buses I ride, also.  You would have to put a towel or something there if YOU want to rest your head on that particular window.

"But smells good. If your nose is close to it."

Nasty, irrelevant statement.

# November 10, 2009 8:17 AM

HoustonHater said:

@J. Liggins

"The 137 and 163 (which used to be interlined several years ago) run through the ghetto.  You'll never see a new MCI on those routes.  The trash (those used up 4400 artics) they handed off to Hiram Clarke to run on the 163 are a disgrace.  The 137 hasn't had a soft seater since the occasional Kashmere Mercedes would pop up back in the 90s."

<The D45HFs and D4500s. Should run those routes.>

<4400 artics. Trash? Maybe, but the seats are nice.>

# November 10, 2009 8:05 PM

HoustonHater said:

@Cedric Collins

"After this Metro can run the 2X9 P&R(Higher Frequency of course) routes instead of the individual lot buses. Turn the 170 into 275.'

^Yes!

"Nasty, irrelevant statement."

<Ok.>

# November 10, 2009 8:07 PM

Mary Sit said:

Someone asked what we do to clean the buses. Here's an answer from Andy Skabowski, associate vp of operations:

"Cleaning operations occur on our buses nightly. Maintenance cleaning crews wipe the various surfaces down routinely with a non-toxic disinfectant.

"The environmentally-friendly, hospital-grade disinfectant is used to wipe surfaces inside the buses, including handrails, window ledges, fareboxes and back-of-seat handles."

# November 17, 2009 3:39 PM
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