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Here's the Transcript of Fourth Web Chat
Friday, May 02, 2008 4:35 PM  

Web chat logo - black background, door, word "chat" all overToday at noon, about 44 of you joined our Web chat, Transit Talk, to ask questions of Frank J. Wilson, president and CEO of METRO.

We received questions submitted in advance on this blog, plus questions live during the chat - far more than Wilson could answer. Questions ranged from METRO Solutions to the design of our train station stops.

It was an informative and interesting session - and thanks to all who stopped in to chat.

In the coming weeks, I will try to track down answers to the questions that didn't get answered during this one hour.

Below is a transcript of the Web chat.

 

(11:59:22 AM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Part-Time 286 Rider--I know that 286 is the lowest performing P&R route from previous posts. But since we are now using the Q-card Metro should be able to track where riders are transferring.

 

 I am a part-time rider because if I make it to W Little York P&R by 7:30am I ride if not I drive. But it seems that when I do ride in the evening almost everyone gets off at Northwest Transit Center. Either to the 217, 214 or 298.

 

 Now that Metro has the Q-card info would this not justify extending a few trips out to Northwest or Cypress P&R. I know you can transfer at NTC but with no HOV out to Cypress the 217 sits on 290 main lanes before the HOV. I have missed the transfer many times because of this.

 

 My question is will Metro extend the 286 route or when will the HOV be extended to Cypress?


A : It's true the Q Card system gives us access to improved information which we'll use to examine possible service adjustments. We'll send the suggestion to operations planning personnel for a detailed consideration and response.

 

 

\(12:01:19 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : The only thing METRO can do is to try to keep people from blocking the tracks---especially when a train is coming. Perhaps METRO can put crossing arms at each intersection along the rail line and not just at certain spots?


A : It's a thoughtful suggestion but not necessarily practical. Traffic signals are the normal and legal devices to control access through intersections. We've invested additional in-ground warning lights to reinforce these traffic signals, and they seem to be working well. People need to respect a red traffic light as a command to stop, not a suggestion.

 

(12:05:29 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Why are there still no plans for routes that go across suburban areas like Clear Lake? A sort of local bus for those living in the suburbs.


A : Suburb-to-suburb service on a fixed route system is extremely difficult to run in a cost-effective manner because there are so many different origin and destination patterns. We are experimenting with an expansion of our van service for these areas and are planning a radically new service that will feature the option of using an auto at the end of a Park & Ride line out in the suburbs to access final destinations in the suburban areas. But I stress that this is still in the planning stages. More on this as the plan evolves.

 

 

(12:07:06 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Are you ever going to bring back the "Dixie Drive Your Cows In" ad? I heard it all the time my first couple years of college and still remember METRO's 635-4000 number 20 years later as a result.


A : You've stumped the panel. Now I have to do research on Dixie and her cow to figure out how to best respond. Sorry.

 

 

(12:10:14 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : When can we expect the bus routes to be revisited to include better overall coverage, not just zig-zaggy routes designed to serve those riding now. Better overall coverage would encourage many of us to ride much more often, compared to the current wild out of the way long rides we would have to take now.


A : Best question of the month. The zig-zaggy rides make me dizzy and crazy. They should never be part of a well-planned transit route system.

 

 We have launched something we call Project Grid which is intended to reconfigure all our routes so that they run in basically a north-south and east-west configuration where they'd be easier to find, easier to understand, and easier to expand frequency of service, resulting in a better, overall operation.

 

With a system as large as METRO's covering over 1200 square miles, this will take a bit of time to complete, but you have the right idea. And we have the right intentions.

 

 

(12:11:06 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : If the rail running along Richmond and connecting Uof H, TSU and Richmond all the way west was a good idea, then why hasn't bus service been put on this route to show how valuable it would be.


A : Good suggestion. We might do it.

 

(12:12:19 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Does Metro have any plans to include bus transportation to the Medical Center form the Eastex P&R?


A : Right now we don't. But we'll monitor other requests for service.

 

(12:14:43 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : NYC's MTA maintains a small fleet of historic buses to showcase at events and will even operate them on routes periodically. I know Metro has one GMC Fishbowl bus dating from1960s left at the facility off of McCarthy and a few Eagle, GMC, and Flixible/Grumman buses from the 70s-90s parked at the Polk facility. Do you have plans to restore these buses and implement as NYC has done with their historic fleets?


A : No, we don't. We are attempting to upgrade and rejuvenate our bus fleet by purchasing 100 buses/year, every year and equip those buses with more environmental friendly power plants called hybrid-electric drive engines, which not only clean the air but economize on fuel consumption. We have to stretch every precious dollar as far as possible. And our commitment to history will be a higher quality of life and more transit service for more people in more areas.

 

(12:16:18 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Mr. Wilson, thank you for having this conversation with us! Can you tell us what areas METRO is looking at for light rail expansion after the latest lines are finished in 2012?


A : Sure. From downtown to the Northwest Transit Center, from the UH main campus south to Sunnyside, from Fannin South to Missouri City, East Magnolia Transit Center southeast to Gulfgate.

 

 

(12:21:14 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : How much longer can Metro hold out from raising fares as we approach $4/gallon gas?


A : Another question of the month. As you know, we held out for 13 years since our last fare adjustment, but we may not be so lucky going forward. It's hard to predict specific times for fare increases because as you know, gas prices are volatile and human nature, by its nature, is very adaptable.

 

 We never thought $3/gallon would be acceptable, but apparently, people have adjusted their personal finances and found a way to pay that sum. Nevertheless, the phenomenon of growing gas prices is a double-edged sword. While it certainly drives up our cost of providing service, we do gain more revenue from expanded ridership.

 

 So it's a delicate balancing act to match increased revenue with increased cost. We have an aversion to knee-jerk reactions to ask our customers to pay more simply because gas prices go through seasonal changes.

 

 If this delicate balance becomes unbalanced in a big way for a long period of time, we will then have to consider raising fares. Until then, we'll do the best we can with the fares at the current level.

 

 

 

(12:24:04 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : As a new METRO rider, I have seen several ways that might improve the rider experience. With GPS tracking I would be able to save a lot more time if I knew where a bus was before I went to a station. For example, if the bus was running behind or off schedule, which is more the rule than the exception on the urban routes, I would be able to check on its progress without having to wait at the stop and wonder when the bus will arrive. Any plans to implement this type of service? If so, when, and if not, why not? Also, a follow-up...will METRO be joining the ranks of other public transportation systems featured on Google Transit?


A : We're working on this system and service at the present time. We already have the GPS equipment on all our buses. We're working on the communication links between the bus, our central computers, and electronic signs which will appear on our bus shelters.

 

You will see this for the first time by the end of this year on a new service called a Signature Bus System that will be implemented on our Bellaire Route 2 service. Try it out, let us know what you think.

 

 

 

(12:25:51 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Mr. Wilson, I am interested in becoming a supplier to your Metro systems for goods. Our company carries a diverse product group. We are HuB certified (Fed and state), minority woman owned, Native American owned business?


A : Contact Paul Como, vice president of procurement. 713/739.4803. Tell him I suggested that you call. He'll be able to assist you.

 

(12:27:12 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : The project as it stands consist of four rail lines; the PTG group will pick up where the WGI left off. As you are aware, we are looking for cost-cutting opportunities PPP (public private partnership) . How can we get the message to PTG?


A : Please, rest assured that we send this message to PTG and all contractors working on METRO Solutions that we expect the most cost-effective solutions possible every single day.

 

 

(12:29:42 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : We have been using the Cypress Park & Ride since it opened instead of wasting gas to get to Northwest Park & Ride. The gates have finally been installed & working. Why is the $3.50 bus fare being deducted at the gate?

 

 Per the Metro website "All patrons with a Q Card park for FREE at the Cypress garage. Q Cards must have a minimum value of $3.50." We all ride the bus but, sometimes someone needs their car so we carpool on the HOV.

 

Why do we have to pay to park when we are carpooling? We are patrons of Metro services when we carpool since the P&R garage and HOV is managed by Metro.


A : Many people who access the lot and tell us that they carpool, don't. They are just using up a scarce parking space that needs to be available for our Park & Ride customers. We certainly want to encourage carpooling and we're trying to come up with a foolproof method of validating real carpoolers from the scoundrels. If you have any suggestions, we'd be happy to make them part of our thinking.

 

(12:30:19 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : I'm unclear if the University line proposal has all approvals & funding needed, or are there big contingencies out there that could derail the project?


A : We're in the process of getting the project funded and expect to be successful in our efforts.

 

 

(12:35:16 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : On the Uptown line, I have seen drawings indicating that the route would go down the middle of Loop 610 from Memorial to Post Oak. TxDOT just rebuilt 610, and it doesn't seem as if there would be room to add even an elevated rail. What is the real alignment going to be?


A : There are ways to put the rail line in the median of 610 in this area simply by expanding that median a few feet into the inner shoulder. There is ample shoulder space in the outside lanes of this roadway, and there are miles and miles of interstate without shoulders on both sides of the freeway.

 

Therefore, we think it is quite practical, possible and safe and cost-effective to use this alignment.

 

 

(12:39:38 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : TMC is one of, if not the largest employer in the Houston metro area. I would think that Metro would at least attempt to consider the employees there. Commuting from the Northeast to downtown to the medical center is tedious. I'm sure a lot more people would ride the buses if not for the transferring.


A : We've studied service patterns and needs from around this region with the TMC management. They supplied employee resident data on a zip code basis. We did not see in that data a pronounced amount of trip making from the Northeast to the TMC. The major trip making pattern was from the Southwest.

 

This is not to say that we're not interested in serving all points of the compass. We're just trying to prioritize our initial efforts on the largest group of potential users.

 

(12:41:37 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Mr. Wilson, just this morning Mayor Bill White accepted an award given by the National Organization on Disabilities recognizing Houston as the 2007 most accessible U.S. City for people with disabilities. How does METRO fit into all of this?


A : Every service we provide is an accessible service, and in addition to our buses and trains, we provide an extensive van service called METROLift that provides door-to-door service to people with disabilities throughout our service area, on a reservation basis. In addition, we subsidize lift-equipped taxis to provide on-demand service.

 

 

C

Q : Why use split canopies at rail stops that leave part of the platform uncovered? When walking along the platform during a rainstorm (or even under the blazing summer sun), the uncovered gap is a nuisance.,


A : Careful design dictated that we cover the entry and exit ways to the rail cars and not the areas of the train that doesn't provide customer access. Yes, I am finding it hard to believe, as well, but that's what the METRO historians tell me.

 

 I'll do my best to make sure that our new platforms have continuous shelters and people can stand wherever they choose while they wait to board our train.

 

(12:46:30 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : What is the status of the light rail line construction? When is METRO going to build something?


A : We expect to start construction on the East End project this spring/summer. More precisely, a day in June which has not been nailed down as yet. If it happens prior to June 21st, it will be the spring. If it happens after the 21st, it will be this summer. Therein lies a rub.

 

(12:50:00 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Why after going online 5 days ago and adding money to my Q card I still get red-lighted on the bus. you customer service says they have no idea whom the money will show up even though they see it on the card.


A : This condition obviously should not exist. We will refer it to our Q Card technical staff for an immediate answer. Send me your contact information so we can link you up with one of our experts today. If you don't get a solution to this problem, call me. 713/739.4899.

 

(12:51:16 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Did I hear METRO is buying new buses? Is this true?


A : Yes, it's true - 100 a year. They're already arriving and they are an exciting, new technology, environmentally-friendly and fuel-efficient. They're called HEVs - hybrid-electric vehicles.

 

 

(12:52:22 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Has any consideration been given to pressure washing the beautiful paving at the Metro Rail Stations? They are starting to look stained and dirty. Twice a year may help keep them from looking like NYC Subway stations.


A : I agree with you. But we already require our contractors to steam clean these stations approximately every two weeks. So we either need more steam or more cleaning.

 

(12:54:41 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : What is METRO's stance on the lawsuit filed yesterday by the Texas Medical Center regarding the stray current from the light rail?


A : We have been working with all the institutions and the utilities in the Medical Center area over the last three years. We have determined that there is no stray current problem, and the Medical Center itself through their own technical studies have determined that there's no stray current problem, that no building or utility sustained any damage as a result of stray current. Therefore, as you can imagine, we don't understand their lawsuit.

 

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Q : Students at the Town & Country campus of Houston Community College (I-10 and Beltway 8) must walk one mile in each direction from Gessner to attend school. There is no closer bus service to the campus ever since TXDot asked metro to remove the bus stop on the Westbound service road.


A : We'll ask our service planning people to follow up on this.

 

(12:56:45 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : Has the new express bus service to IAH started?


A : Look for it in August this year. The exact date for start-up will be widely disseminated. Hours of operation will be approximately 5 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily.

 

(12:57:26 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : When will METRO hold a referendum to build rail to the suburbs?


A : It was done in 2003. The referendum in 2003 provided for rail into the suburbs.

(1:03:35 PM) Frank J Wilson:

Q : What are HOT lanes and when is METRO going to implement the service?


A : A HOT lane is a high occupancy toll lane primarily to accommodate vehicles with only one person in them. That car on a discretionary basis chooses to enter the lane and pay a toll. No other user, such as buses, carpools, motorcycles, are required to pay a toll. It will remain free.

 

The toll, however, varies by the amount of traffic and the speed of that traffic in the HOV lane. As the traffic grows, and the speed decreases, the toll goes up to discourage any additional single occupants from entering the lane.

 

 

 The objectives are: 1) preserve a reliable, high-speed transit lane for METRO service; 2) provide congestion relief from the general purpose lanes by allowing more vehicles to use the HOV lane and utilize the spare capacity of the lane; and 3) to allow auto drivers the privilege of using the lane if they choose and are willing to pay the toll.

 

 So, therefore, this toll is not mandatory.

 

Finally, a major benefit of the new technology will be the ease of opening and closing and reversing the direction of use of the HOV lanes automatically and rapidly from a remote location.

 

 This will allow METRO the flexibility of keeping the lanes open longer and providing HOV lane service at times that are not currently available, such as Saturday and Sunday. We expect to start implementation later this year.

 

We're out of time. As usual, it's been a pleasure for me to hear from you about the things of most interest to you. Let's do it again soon.

 

 

Posted by Mary Sit
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Cedric Collins said:

WHOO-HOO!  At least one of my questions was a part of the chat that Mr. Wilson actually answered.

Mary?  Let me know if anybody there at METRO can answer the questions that I gave to you in your e-mail.  Thanks much!

Frank J. Wilson said:  "It's a thoughtful suggestion but not necessarily practical. Traffic signals are the normal and legal devices to control access through intersections. We've invested additional in-ground warning lights to reinforce these traffic signals, and they seem to be working well. People need to respect a red traffic light as a command to stop, not a suggestion."

The only other suggestion that I can add to that is increased police patrols at the intersection of where I work at.  The law enforcement agencies that I can see who need to be there are:

1.  HPD.

2.  METRO PD.

3.  HCC PD.

4.  Harris County Constable's Precinct 7.

That's all from me.

~Cedric Collins~

# May 2, 2008 6:00 PM

Derrick said:

At this time I would like to take the opportunity  to say "thank you" to Mr. Wilson for being able to spend this hour with us, for understanding how important the ordinary customer's input could be for a development of better transit system in Houston.  There are many Houstonians who appreciate what you do for the future of our city and wish you the best of luck!!!

# May 3, 2008 1:36 AM

Michael Williams said:

I remember the radio ad's from the 80's I think, about the Daisy let your Cows in, 635-4000.  That is when we only had one area code, which was 713, and before having to dial an area code everywhere.  Geez, I am showing my age.

# May 3, 2008 2:09 AM

wi11ie said:

Actually it was:

DIXIE DRIVE (YOUR COWS IN)

 63    5        4000

I remember it too!

Dang I am getting old...

wi11ie

# May 3, 2008 11:13 PM

DominicMazoch said:

Maybe we can have one our mascots trained so that when a driver runs a red light he gets a deposit on the windshield.  Double if it is clean.

Actually, I was in Galveston this weekend.  Was on the Galveston Historical Foundation Homes Tour.  Was in backyard.  Mascot got revenge.  Got bird mature on my shirt!

Now Galveston would be a city PW would love.  I saw a large number of people riding bicycles.  All types, from "newsboy" types with big baloon tires to mountain units.

Island Transit does have bike racks on buses.  Now I did not see any racks on the self proplede LRTS\'s, but I have seen anything about NOT bringing them on board.  But they are high floored like the St. Charles St. Line in New Orleans, so that might be a problem.

And for ads:  I loves the driver morphing into a werewolf.  Wonder if waws Professor Lupin!

An ad without an area code?  ANCIENT!

# May 4, 2008 8:41 PM

Royko said:

It is good that there was a run-up in the price of gasoline now.

Since METREAUX has been reducing the number of buses, fixed route headways, and full-time operators, the crush of frustrated commuters will be enormous, and likely far beyond METREAUX's ability to serve the demand.

These novice transit riders will receive a full dose of the negative aspects of public transit ala METREAUX's Solutions scheme.

Time will tell but it is my prediction that they will be back in their cars soon enough, and, it is certain that they will be hostile to attempts by the Urban Rail Robber Barons at METREAUX wanting to play monopoly with any more of our sales tax money.

If the FTA delays the urban rail expansions, this should help buy enough time to generate legislation to throttle-back METREAUX's grandiose Utopian plans.

# May 4, 2008 10:05 PM

ERL said:

Would love to ride bus to work but found it does not go anywhere besides downtown.

Before taking years to define the Project Grid.  How about just adding some bus line to travel alone HY6, BELWY 8, and 610 Now?  So no more northwest to downtown to IAH airport?  There are so many business around those loops, I believe there will be a lot customers.

# May 5, 2008 4:44 PM

Rich said:

Sorry...new here...

1.  Dominicm what is the mascot you're talking about?

2.  Royko, why do you call it METREAUX?

# May 5, 2008 4:49 PM

Royko said:

Rich,

First, click on the link:

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/buses.asp

+++++++++

It just seemed, the way the transit agency was being run, some Houstonians have come to suspect that the local bureaucrats were being advised by Ray Nagin.

Ergo - METREAUX!

# May 5, 2008 6:38 PM

DominicMazoch said:

Mascot:

One day, one of the members of this blog, P&R Rider, made a funny remark using pigeons.

From that time, every so often in a thread, those poor birds were mentioned. (Example:  Red light runners, above.)

Hence, the pigeon has become, in a sense, the unofficial "mascot" of the group.

# May 5, 2008 10:00 PM

Cedric Collins said:

Rich,

    Royko calls it that because he has NOTHING better to do in his ______ life.(fill in the blank)  Furthermore, the link he wants you to look at has NOTHING to do with either METRO or the City Of Houston for that matter so good luck figuring that out.

# May 6, 2008 8:22 AM

Royko said:

Mr. Collins,

Your startlingly low level of tolerance for a noble citizen fighting METREAUX on behalf of the abused poor, minority, elderly, and handicapped bus transit dependent riders is discouraging, and seemingly out of character for one who normally is a bubbly blogger.

# May 6, 2008 10:50 AM

Cedric Collins said:

Speak for yourself, CHICKEN!

You're the one with the low level of tolerance, buddy!  Want to know why?  Here's why=>You whine about METRO just about everyday of the week over what?  Not a _____ thing.  You think you're representing the people but you're not so quit while you're ahead because what you blab about is NOT gonna get you anywhere.  You're a disgrace to yourself because you can't even figure out your precious money not only goes into METRO but to other services in this city.

I would strongly suggest you create your own blog and whine about all these services that Houston has to offer.

I can bet money that you would love to whine about other people but you're too busy worrying about METRO.  If they feel like listening to ALL of what you say, then a whole new administration is in order.

# May 6, 2008 11:15 AM

Steve Palmer said:

Roykeaux, in a recent post, you wrote, "I accept the notion that we need a minimal public transit 'safety net' for Houston." Those are hardly the words of a champion of mass-transit-dependent riders. Such a person would want a substantial, integrated system of mass transit in Houston that was popular enough to largely fund itself. That is the only way Houston's "poor, minority, elderly, and handicapped bus transit dependent riders" will ever have a truly practical way to get around this city, rather than having to spend 3 hours (each way) riding one bus line after another just to get to a doctor's appointment.

# May 6, 2008 12:00 PM

Cedric Collins said:

Steve Palmer,

            Nice on this word "Roykeau."  I hope you don't mind me using that word.  I'm happy already just looking at it.  Anyhoo, I am not afraid of what he recently said to me.  It's not going to hurt me not one bit.

He claims he can try to represent the "poor, minority, elderly, and handicapped bus transit dependent riders" but I seriously beg to differ.

Enough said---until next time.

# May 6, 2008 1:02 PM

Cedric Collins said:

*lol*  Maybe I can use either "Roykeau" or how you say it "Roykeaux."  Either way, they're both funny---to me---and I think he needs to learn that METRO riders like myself will not worry about his rambling about what METRO does that he doesn't like.  You, Mr. Roykeaux, can say all you want but you don't have a final say in what METRO wants to do.  Just had to throw that in here somewhere.

# May 6, 2008 1:07 PM

Bosco70 said:

My suggestion to Frank Wilson on how to validate those who carpool or not at Cypress P&R using only registered Q-cards.  Add a contract of Full-Fare Cypress Carpool to the Q-card menu.  Then cards with this contract would not be charged to enter the garage with at least a $7 balance (Round-trip Fare).  Therefore, if I choose to carpool I will not be charged but if I ride the bus my normal fare would be deducted.  Start with a group of 250 carpoolers then it can grow if needed.  If a Q-card with this contract is not used for at least 3 or 6 months it would revert back to regular Full Fare contract.  Therefore, the Cypress Car Pool group would only have current users.  As this group should change as more frequent & early/late service is added to the 217 route.  Joining the Cypress Car Pool group would be processed by calling the customer service line.  This should be enough to discourage the parking scoundrels that Mr. Wilson speaks of.

# May 6, 2008 1:11 PM

Cedric Collins said:

Back to the real topic at hand:

My suggestion to Mr. Wilson (to annoy _______=>you-know-who) is that we needs more (drum roll) METRORail trains.  That way, we can have more two-car trains---especially at rush hour and at other times where a lot of people are riding.

Another suggestion:  MORE and MORE of those "undercover" cops riding the buses AND the rail---regardless of any cameras you see installed (on the buses; the trains already had them prior to arrival---I think).

# May 6, 2008 1:50 PM

Cedric Collins said:

Another suggestion:  I still say---I think---some sort of police presence at the station platforms so people can try to feel a little safer.

I'll be back laterz because I have a REAL job to perform here.  See ya!

# May 6, 2008 2:06 PM

Royko said:

Mr. Palmer,

Only a few short years ago, METREAUX had a much larger fleet of buses, more full-time operators, and shorter headways.

The transit system was barely able to cover the service area then.  Taxpayers are being short-changed with the reduction in critical bus service so METREAUX can divert these precious resources for boondoggle urban rail.

I hope you did not think that I was championing a METREAUX bus in every driveway?

I see it was your fertile mind which coined the term "ROYKEAUX".

Excellent!

I hereby wish to retract my positive comment to Mr. Collins.

# May 6, 2008 7:32 PM

Cedric Collins said:

What was that, ROYKEAUX?  I couldn't hear you because your yappin' was TOO LOUD!  *ROTFLMAO*

Anyhoo, I say this again---you can say what you want but you don't scare me so for my sake---STOP TRYING!

If the doggone METRORail is so hateful to you at how it is now, why don't you become a terrorist and blow it up?  It might make you happy---or---it make you stop whining about it.

Just a thought.

# May 6, 2008 8:09 PM

Cedric Collins said:

"I hereby wish to retract my positive comment to Mr. Collins."

Smart comment here, Roykeaux.  Pure genious in my book.  (giving sarcastic look)

I just hope people like Mr. Wilson don't have to put up with people like you.

# May 7, 2008 6:17 AM

Steve Palmer said:

Royko said: I hope you did not think that I was championing a METREAUX bus in every driveway?

No, but that position would be only marginally less sensible than the one you seem to be championing: that public transportation should be used only by those who, for whatever reason, can't drive cars. Given the ever-increasing amount of traffic, scarcity of parking, and air pollution in our city, it isn't enough to have a "minimum" public transportation system for the carless--rather, we need a system that even car owners would willingly use INSTEAD of their cars, particularly for their daily commutes.

# May 7, 2008 10:06 AM

Elizabeth said:

Cedric Collins said:  

"My suggestion to Mr. Wilson...is that we needs more (drum roll) METRORail trains.  That way, we can have more two-car trains---especially at rush hour and at other times where a lot of people are riding.

------------------

I wholeheartedly agree!  I love those two-car trains.  More than once I've seen elderly people or those with small children have to stand and hang on for dear life on the single trains during rush peak times, not because no one offered them a seat, but because the train was too packed for them to make it safely over to the seat.  As for me, I don't mind standing, but it would be nice to have some breathing room once in a while and not have backpacks hit me in the face.  More doubles!

# May 7, 2008 12:33 PM

Rich said:

Sorry guys!  Didn't mean to start a riot!  Where's the love?  :)

# May 7, 2008 2:21 PM

Royko said:

Mr. Palmer,

Please keep in mind that the city of Houston is greater than 600-square miles, and the density is far below the level where urban rail could be deemed efficient.  The initial purpose for publically funded transit was that it served as a safety net.

Further, passenger cars are seemingly the logical mode for a society not under authoritarian control.

Ever-increasing traffic is a factor in our economy.  When the government throttles the use of cars, the economy deflates.  Businesses fail, people suffer.

The scacity of parking should be blamed on the local government.  They have created a mess in the CBD, and I believe the $10,000 parking meters will never pay for themselves.  Just like the Cotswold 2000 meters were an enormous waste of taxpayer funds.

The "air polution" is mostly ozone.  The ship channel refineries generate a huge volume of polutants, yet the politicians have sold us out, and will not enforce the federal or state laws.

The trees help create the precursor gas (CO2), and we keep planting more trees.  The tram creates ground-level ozone, yet no one wants to document the level as it does not fit the environmentalist's template.

Further, the electrical loss to transmit the current to the electrified tram is significant.  The generators use coal, oil or natural gas, thus merely shifting the emissions.

Last,  I have no desire to live in a society where we are ordered to park our air-conditioned cars and ride CHICOM-built bicycles in the sub-tropical heat or torrential rains, while exposing ourselves to the gangs, many comprised of illegal aliens flocking to our Sanctuary City, or, unmonitored felons who roam Houston looking to prey on citizens.

# May 7, 2008 6:07 PM

DominicMazoch said:

Rich:

Welcome to the club.  Just wear some Nomex, so you don't hurt from the flaming!

# May 7, 2008 10:10 PM

DominicMazoch said:

And we more "doubles" on some of the bus routes...it begins with "A"....and I don't mean the chimpmonk.

# May 7, 2008 10:14 PM

FOP98 said:

~Cedric Collins~ said-

The only other suggestion that I can add to that is increased police patrols at the intersection of where I work at.  The law enforcement agencies that I can see who need to be there are:

1.  HPD.

2.  METRO PD.

3.  HCC PD.

4.  Harris County Constable's Precinct 7.

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I have Brothers in Blue and I passed along your concern for this intersection. The time that they are needed there is rush hour and it seems like they are needed everywhere at that time. I was assured that they will keep an eye on it. One that I know,did write a citation there already.

# May 8, 2008 9:48 PM

FOP98 said:

Cedric Collins said:  

Another suggestion:  I still say---I think---some sort of police presence at the station platforms so people can try to feel a little safer.

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My METRO Brothers in Blue feel the same way, However they are losing more officers then they can hire (according to FOP98.org). My Houston Brothers in Blue has the same fate. A regular patrol officer goes from call to call to call. There is little time for any type of proactive work. Cameras are good but you still need the "grunts" on the ground to make the arrests.

# May 8, 2008 9:59 PM

Steve Palmer said:

Royko said:

"Further, passenger cars are seemingly the logical mode for a society not under authoritarian control."

Yes, how I pity the poor citizens of the oppressive regimes of New York City, Chicago, and Washington, DC. How they must chafe at being able to go wherever they like without the use of a car.

"Ever-increasing traffic is a factor in our economy.  When the government throttles the use of cars, the economy deflates.  Businesses fail, people suffer."

Can you give an example? I have no idea why that would be the case.

"The 'air polution' is mostly ozone.  The ship channel refineries generate a huge volume of polutants, yet the politicians have sold us out, and will not enforce the federal or state laws.

The trees help create the precursor gas (CO2), and we keep planting more trees."

It's been a while since my third-grade science lessons, but I'm pretty sure trees _consume_ CO2, not produce it.

"Further, the electrical loss to transmit the current to the electrified tram is significant.  The generators use coal, oil or natural gas, thus merely shifting the emissions."

What's wrong with shifting the emissions away from a large population center? Also, about 25% of electricity comes from nonpolluting sources (14% from nuclear energy, 11% from hydroelectric and other renewable sources).

"Last,  I have no desire to live in a society where we are ordered to park our air-conditioned cars and ride CHICOM-built bicycles in the sub-tropical heat or torrential rains..."

You didn't read my post very carefully. What I wrote was, "...we need a system that even car owners would willingly use INSTEAD of their cars, particularly for their daily commutes." Note the use of the word "willingly."

"...while exposing ourselves to the gangs, many comprised of illegal aliens flocking to our Sanctuary City, or, unmonitored felons who roam Houston looking to prey on citizens."

You keep claiming to champion "poor" and "minority" riders, but it seems that in truth, you hate and fear them. I think what you're looking for is a transit system that will allow you to remain sealed in a plastic bubble, safely walled off from your fellow Houstonians. I'm not sure a car will do the trick; might I suggest some sort of giant hamster ball?

# May 8, 2008 11:49 PM

Royko said:

Mr. Palmer,

I believe the cities of Chicago, Washington, D.C. and New York City prohibit or significantly restrict the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.  Some think that to be repressive.

If one does not recognize the economic activity associated with passenger cars, and what a negative impact reducing reliance on cars would be to an economy, then it does no good to point to our very own Main Street in the CBD.  Traffic counts were reduced 80%+ from 2000 to 2007, and most businesses failed, some locations have experienced a succession of failures.

I stand corrected, the trees produce VOC's which react with the sunlight to form ground-level ozone (smog).  Thank you.

Shifting the emissions doesn't help when the prevailing winds force the pollutants back to the urban area.

I have a healthy fear of the criminal aliens and the felons running loose in Harris County.  You can try and hold hands with them and sing Cumbyah.

I consider myself a poor minority, who is getting more elderly every day, and handicapped by the bureaucracy.

I want a transit system that is the most efficient and cost effective rubber-tired transportation service available to those who must rely upon it.

We must tell the government to stop wasting our precious tax resources, and not issue crushing bond debt which must be repaid by future generations.

It is not fair to expect them to pay for today's wasteful boondoggles.

# May 9, 2008 12:34 AM

Cedric Collins said:

Rich said:  "Sorry guys!  Didn't mean to start a riot!  Where's the love?  :)"

It's OK; you didn't start a riot.  This happens nearly all the time.  When you read Mr. Roykeaux's comments about METRO (YES, it gets under my skin greatly), all I have to say is---get used to it.  With him, there is NO love.

Roykeaux said:  "I want a transit system that is the most efficient and cost effective rubber-tired transportation service available to those who must rely upon it."

Can't always get what you wished for, correct?  For a person who doesn't even ride METRO, go figure!

If you think any TA in this country is the best above the rest, name it and explain why.  ALL transit agencies will have some sort of flaw (or flaws) that its riders and non-riders will complain about.

"We must tell the government to stop wasting our precious tax resources, and not issue crushing bond debt which must be repaid by future generations."

Speak for yourself because you cannot keep your money for long.  Sooner or later, it MUST be spent on anything to keep life going in this country.  Think about it.

# May 9, 2008 10:57 AM

Royko said:

Mr. Collins,

Why should we try to compare other transit agencies with the Harris County entity?

Most seem far worse, as there is little vocal opposition, such as in San Jose, CA.  They have actually sold off most of the buses, just to try and keep the boondoggle urban rail operating.  Which is what Houston will likely experience, sooner than later, more than less.

I would rather encourage the transit agency to once again become one of the finest bus oriented transit agencies, which sets the standard for true mobility in the nation.

# May 9, 2008 11:02 PM
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