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Investing in Trains: A Good Idea
Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:13 PM  

Front of Amtrak trainShould the American government invest more in trains?

That's the question Parade magazine recently posed to its readers, and an overwhelming 97 percent said yes. Readers pointed out that investing in trains would benefit us economically and environmentally; would clear some of the congestion in the skies; and are a good alternative to automobiles.

Last year, we were stuck in gridlock about 3.7 billion hours. A study conducted between January and August 2007 indicated that one in four flights was delayed.

With our streets and skies becoming more crowded, some experts are pointing to trains as the answer.

Trains consume 20 percent less energy than cars or airplanes. Yet, the government has directed funding toward highways, not rail, says Parade. "The game is rigged against rail," James RePass of the National Corridors Initiative told the magazine. 

Consider this: Federally-funded Amtrak received $1.4 billion last year - the same amount as 25 years ago. For fiscal year 2008, the Bush administration has proposed $800 million for Amtrak. That compares to $40 billion earmarked toward highways and $14 billion for airlines in 2006.

What are other nations doing? France has a 200-mph train that connects Paris to the German border where Germany has its own high-speed train. Spain has been operating high-speed trains between Madrid and southern cities for more than 10 years. A seven-and-a-half train trip between Madrid and Barcelona (the same distance as between Boston and Washington, D.C.) will soon be reduced to a two-hour, high-speed train trip.

Japan, home of the bullet train, has engineered a 360-mph train that glides on a cushion of air. It's called magnetic-levitation. And China has said it will spend a quarter trillion dollars to improve its rail system, eventually making possible a trip from Beijing to Shanghai only five hours. That distance is the same as from Chicago to Baltimore, an 18-hour trip on Amtrak.

 

 

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Royko said:

No!

They are an outdated mode, and a waste of precious resources.

Even Congress has cut back on new urban rail starts, as they realize the money is better spent on improving rubber-tired mobility for the majority of Americans.

Just look at the METREAUX FY2008 budget. (do any of you folks ever bother to actually read the official transit authority documents?)

http://www.ridemetro.org/pdf/FY2008_Bus_Plan_Budgets.pdf

METREAUX expects tram ridership to DECLINE (page 19 of 53) 1.115 Million riders, which is -9.56% BELOW the forced tram boardings estimated in FY2007!

The jury is still out as to how much the tram revenue will continue to decline in FY2008.

METREAUX also predicts it will chase away another 6.777 million poor, minority, elderly, and handicapped bus transit dependent riders, a further DECLINE of -9.55% from the FY2007 estimate.  Bus boardings in FY2007 declined approximately -6.62% from FY2006.

# January 10, 2008 9:25 PM

Helene said:

Royko said:

Even Congress has cut back on new urban rail starts, as they realize the money is better spent on improving rubber-tired mobility for the majority of Americans.

This says it all.

# January 11, 2008 12:29 AM

Realistic said:

I've used the trains in London and Paris. The reason this works over there is because of the compactness of the cities. We have too much urban sprawl. I think a commuter train from the burbs to downtown would work though. It does for Denver...

Buying an Amtrak ticket costs more than a flight and takes longer.

# January 11, 2008 8:00 AM

Cedric Collins said:

Royko said:  "do any of you folks ever bother to actually read the official transit authority documents?"  LET ME SUM THIS UP FOR YOU THE BEST WAY I CAN---H*** NO!!  IT'S A WASTE OF MY "PRECIOUS" TIME AND LIFE TO WORRY ABOUT OTHER THINGS SO WHY YOU EVEN ASK THAT QUESTION FOR?!  WE NEED MORE AND MORE TRAINS.  HECK---WE EVEN NEED COMMUTER TRAINS.  IF IT CAN WORK FOR OTHER CITIES IN AMERICA, THEN WHY NOT FOR THE HOUSTON/HARRIS COUNTY REGION?!  We are seriously lagging behind on stuff like this and if people look for that stuff, they may not want to come here to Houston.  Why?  You figure it out.

Royko said:  "Even Congress has cut back on new urban rail starts, as they realize the money is better spent on improving rubber-tired mobility for the majority of Americans."

Improving---huh?  You mean trying to maintain these vehicles you speak of in hopes to keep them on the road for as long as possible.

# January 11, 2008 9:39 AM

Steve Palmer said:

Realistic said:  

"I've used the trains in London and Paris. The reason this works over there is because of the compactness of the cities. We have too much urban sprawl."

Population density is definitely an important factor, but it's not the only one. There's also the fact that European countries heavily subsidize their train systems (usually by putting great big taxes on gasoline), while the US does not.

"I think a commuter train from the burbs to downtown would work though. It does for Denver..."

And New York, and Chicago, and so on. I agree.

"Buying an Amtrak ticket costs more than a flight and takes longer."

That depends on how much distance you're talking about. I recently looked at the cost of flying from from New York City to Albany, and found that the cheapest airfare available for that one-way trip (according to Yahoo travel) was $167. The cost of an Amtrak ticket was $59.

Additionally, the travel time probably isn't that much different. The flight from NYC to Albany is much shorter (45 minutes) than the train trip (2 hours), but when you consider how long the boarding and disembarking processes are for each, they may come out about even.

# January 11, 2008 4:03 PM

barbara shaidnagle said:

noooooo.  Valero, for instance, has spent tooo much money on tonight's Cacutus Bowl and far tooo less on education employees.  When I asked the clerk at the Valero on Main Street about Qcard, he said management had told him nothing.  I think the Q card red vest people should go to that Valero.  My Q is for quit -- as I will quit asking.

# January 11, 2008 6:14 PM

don said:

I'm not sure why anyone would call trains an "outdated mode and a waste of precious resources". I've ridden them quite a bit in the U.S. Northeast and Europe and they're a great way to travel. Actually building more freeways and expanding airports is a great waste of resources and will soon be outdated if gas prices keep rising.

# January 11, 2008 8:07 PM

Royko said:

don,

For those who do not realize this, the world economy will continue to depend on passenger cars, as well as the fuel to power them on roads maintained with the little residual gasoline trust fund taxes not diverted and squandered by Congress on 19th century steel-wheeled transit.

# January 11, 2008 11:08 PM

don said:

royko,

For us uninformed people, where do you get your information? Do you have a crystal ball? Have you ever actually ridden on a train or bus?

# January 12, 2008 6:05 AM

Royko said:

don,

Yes I have.

As far as where I get my information; numerous sources.

Are you saying that the automobile industry will suddenly collapse, and we will all be forced to ride METREAUX's 7.5-mile choo choo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/03/09/184152.html

Please chart 2 on page 50 of the following US Dept. of Commerce produced document:

http://www.ita.doc.gov/td/auto/domestic/2007RoadAhead.pdf

There are greater financial interests who would favor automobiles as compared to feathering Siemens' nest.

# January 12, 2008 10:38 AM

don said:

royko,

I'm not expecting the auto industry to collapse  anytime soon, although they will probably be made in China. I don't think most people would stop driving their car even if gasoline got up to $100 a gallon. The only way they would stop driving is if there weren't any gas at all or if it was rationed like in WWII. Actually the article was mostly speaking of long distant trains which I think would be a great thing, but apparently the road building lobbyists have a lot more clout, or money, than the railroad people so there isn't likely to be a  substantial passenger train network in the foreseeable future.

# January 12, 2008 12:49 PM

Royko said:

don,

Here on Houston's Animal Farm, expect at some point our autocratic Mayor to decree who can drive, what kind of eco-car we can own, where we can drive, when we can drive, and why we should continue to vote for "Big Brother."

For those who scoff at this, "Citizen Bill" got away with SafeClear.  A heavilly taxpayer funded scheme where a citizen doesn't even have the right to change a flat tire; where folks have no option but to watch, all too often, a felon seize their vehicle, and hold it for ransom.

# January 12, 2008 5:13 PM

ChloeMireille said:

I would probably be more interested in taking Amtrak  if it went more places. From Houston, you have to go to San Antonio, Marshall, or New Orleans before going anywhere else.

# January 14, 2008 8:30 AM

Mary Sit said:

barbara,

I am sorry you had that experience at a Valero gas station. Could you please tell me the location of that station, and we will try to find out what happened? Thanks for your patience.

# January 14, 2008 11:58 AM

don said:

chloe,

There used to be trains to just about anywhere you wanted to go but unfortuately politicians decided to spend our money on more highways and airports. I don't want to get into politics, but this last administration has really tried to completely destroy Amtrak. They're still big in the Northeast but that's about it. The last long distance train I rode my wife and I rode the Amtrak bus to Longview and then caught the train to Chicago then changed trains and went on to New York. Coming back we went through Atlanta and on to Houston. It was a very enjoyable trip but don't take a train  if you're in a hurry.

# January 14, 2008 7:48 PM

ChloeMireille said:

Well, I'm not concerned about the time it would take. I'd consider it like taking the scenic route.

I'm not surprised it's so popular in the Northeast. I figure once you get to Washington DC, it's easier to take a train northward into Philadelphia, New York, or Boston. It's probably because you hit a major metropolitan area every 2 or 3 hours instead of every 4 or 5 like down here.

# January 15, 2008 9:05 AM

_ said:

No, the bus is more versatile than the train.  Bus routes parallel the train one block away.  Walk the block and avoid the train.  Secondly, the train doesn't mix with traffic well.  It's a 7.5 mile long track crossing.  AmTrak is abominable.  The Houston AmTrak station looks like it went out of business.

# February 5, 2008 6:30 PM
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