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METRO Goes Green with Hybrid Buses
Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:06 AM

 

Hollywood celebrities are seeing green on the road – and now more of METRO will be doing likewise.

Cameron Diaz, Tom Hanks, Gwyneth Paltrow and Ed Begley Jr. are just some of the movie stars who are driving hybrid cars and using clean energy, according to Wired.

 Starting in March, the first of 40 hybrid buses will be delivered to METRO, with all 40 here by June, said John Walsh, METRO’s senior director of bus maintenance. These diesel-electric hybrid buses are New Flyer buses with a hybrid drive systems manufactured by General Motors with the Allison Electric Parallel drive. Allison is a division of GM. Photo of hybrid bus

METRO already has four, retrofitted hybrid buses on the road, but this new delivery will boost METRO’s clean energy buses to 3.5 percent of its fleet of 1,221 buses, said Andrew Skabowski, director of maintenance support functions.

The 40 hybrids will replace 30 buses. 

“The negative perception that people have about buses is that they’re smelly, big, smoke-belching vehicles, and this changes all that,” said Walsh who masterminded New York’s program of hybrid buses before moving to Houston. “The noise signature goes down; the emissions are as clean as or cleaner than compressed natural gas. The operating cost goes down.”

While the New Flyer buses cost $120,000 more than a conventional bus, METRO expects to save 25 percent on fuel, said Walsh. “We will get that money back in six or seven years,” said Walsh, adding that the lifetime of a bus is 12 years.

Comparative fuel economy data shows that the average hybrid fuel economy is 4.33 mpg compared to the average conventional fuel economy of 3.58 mpg.

“This is an evolving and maturing technology. The good part is that there are a number of competitive systems out there that are becoming more and more robust. And as the market penetration increases, the cost differential will go down, the reliability will go up, and the performance improves – which is the natural evolution of technology,” said Walsh.

Here’s how a diesel-electric hybrid bus works.

From 0 to 20 miles per hour, the New Flyer hybrid bus uses electricity. “Then it uses a torque blend – blending the best of both worlds – the electric and mechanical function of the engine to prepare the vehicle. Once it’s up to 65 miles per hour, the internal combustion takes over,” explained James Blocker, METRO supervisor of advanced technology. “The reason is that the hybrid is most efficient at stop-and-go duty cycles, similar to what our buses do.”

When the bus driver stops pressing the accelerator, then regenerative braking occurs.

“It turns the hybrid system Motor B into a generator – and that in turn, slows the vehicle down and puts that energy back into the battery pack. Now when you’re ready to take off from the next stop, you put energy out again. You’re regenerating energy back into the battery pack every time the bus takes off and on,” said Blocker.

And that process extends the life of a bus’ brakes because the system uses the hybrid drive in lieu of the foundation brakes until the bus slows to 3 to 5 miles per hour. The foundation brake is one of the costliest items to maintain on a bus. It costs $1,800 to replace front and rear brakes.

“The braking energy that is normally wasted becomes energy that goes back into the battery pack,” said Walsh. “So brake pads don’t wear out as quickly.”

Here are the specifications of METRO’s new hybrid buses:

Manufacturer: New Flyer of America

Model: Low-Floor Bus

Quantity: 40

Seats: 39

Length: 40 feet

Year: 2006

Passengers should notice a pleasant difference on the hybrid buses. 

“It will be much smoother. It will be quieter. Riders will certainly notice very little emissions besides the heat signature from the stack,” said Walsh.

And you might feel a little better knowing that you’re riding a green bus. How clean is it?  METRO expects these reductions in emissions:

* 77% less particulate matter (PM)

* 56% less carbon monoxide (CO)

* 44% less oxides of nitrogen (NOx)

Since hydrocarbons are inherently low in diesel engines, the emission test results show up higher for that. These measurements are based on results from the National Renewable Energy Labs. Read the report here.

“Nothing is free. You’re making an investment, and the investment has some cost. What you look at is whether or not that cost is approximately equivalent to the standard propulsion system and whether or not you get some benefit,” said Walsh.

What will make METRO’s conversion to hybrid buses successful?
”The fact that the customers notice a difference,” said Walsh. “Besides knowing that it makes a difference that we’ve improved the regional air quality and we’re doing what we can to reduce our energy consumption."

Comments

PubliusTX said:

>>Since hydrocarbons are inherently low in diesel engines, the emission test results show up higher for that.<<

The first part of your sentence is logically nonsensical, and I'm not sure what you're trying to convey in the second part of your sentence, which is worded awkwardly.

Back to the first -- Diesel IS a hydrocarbon. Hydrocarbons aren't "inherently low in diesel" engines -- they FUEL those engines!

If this blog is going to continue to be a repository for such press-release type postings, maybe someone needs to do some tighter fact-checking and editing before the press releases go live.

# January 23, 2007 11:30 AM

Matt Bramanti said:

Kevin, I thought the exact same thing. From Wikipedia:

"The average chemical formula for common diesel fuel is C12H26, ranging from approx. C10H22 to C15H32."

So, it looks like the hydrocarbon content of diesel ranges roughly from 100% to 100%.

# January 23, 2007 5:17 PM

Henry Ramsey said:

All I can say is It's about time you got some new busses on the road.  The current ones are literally falling apart at times.

The question I have though is about the acceleration and decelleration curves: The few hybrids that you currently have have WICKED acceleration curves in that when the driver steps on the 'gas' pedal the bus takes off in a hurry. Many drivers when running behind will board a passenger then immediatly take off as soon as the passenger clears the door.

With these hybrid busses, if a passenger is not holding onto something that person is more than likely to end up on the floor, or in another passenger's lap!  I'm NOT kidding(It happened to me at least once already!)

Are drivers going to be given any new training to prevent them throwing passengers about when they step on the gas the same as they normally 'need' to do with a regular bus?  The same question goes for breaking too.  The hybrid busses also stop faster, in my experience with your current hybrids, so again passengers might be thrown about on crowded busses because a driver might tend to press harder on the break than s/he needs to, to get the same stopping power.

# January 24, 2007 3:10 AM

wi11ie said:

Mr Ramsey,

We are repeatedly warned to watch our stops and starts. This will require an adjustment on our part  to insure that we as operators are ever more vigilant in our duties.

Hard starts and stops are not what we are about. Yes, they do happen and for that I will apologise for all of us.

Hybrid busses are going to require a learning curve since they are Johnny-on-the-spot unlike the "dialed down" diesel wonders we have now.

Bear with us!

wi11ie

# January 24, 2007 11:34 AM

Rorschach said:

Oh you scientific types! Oh! Wait! A Poli-Sci PhD and A Real Estate Appraiser... Hmm... So even a non-techie should realize that Diesel is 100% hydrocarbons... (ok, 99+% can't forget the tramp sulphur...)

# January 24, 2007 5:11 PM

Rorschach said:

Actually Allison USED to be a division of GM, Now it is owned by Detroit Diesel....

# January 24, 2007 5:13 PM

Rorschach said:

I believe you meant that hydrocarbon EMISSIONS for diesel engines are inherently low... But NOx and Sox are quite high.

# January 24, 2007 5:16 PM

DominicMazoch said:

The hybird buses also sound different, bcause of the electric motor(s) which power the transmission.  They have a winding noise like...a train!

An electirc transmission might be a better way to go in a constant start/stop bus over a mechanical one.  When the railroads were expeimenting with gas and diesel locomotives in the last century, they found out the electrical transmission was the way to go.  In fact some of the first diesel-electric switchers were a crude form of hybird:  Diesel-electric, battery-electric, and pure electric (third rail or overhead.)

# January 24, 2007 8:32 PM

Woody Speer said:

With a 21% increase in fuel economy, these new hybrids look like a smart buy.  Since METRO promised bike racks on buses in 2008 one would assume that these buses are being ordered with the bike racks installed as this would comply with the provisions of METRO Solutions and save the costs of a later install.   This would assume that METRO is visionary and truly embraces multi-modal transportation enhancements.

Out of curiosity, how do these new hybrid buses compare fuel usage wise to what it costs to power the light rail down Main?  Mary, give us some figures ie. kilowatts consumed by light rail train per mile with stats on carrying capacity as compared to what the hybrid bus passenger carrying capacity is.

Looks like you could run these hybrids down Richmond Avenue with some kind of electronic device that could switch the traffic light to green in favor of the hybrid bus, stop every third bus stop and presto you’ve got your transportation dilemmas on Richmond solved.  Maybe there is a magical value of electric propulsion on rail over those rubber tires on pavement but heck they both get you there.

# January 24, 2007 10:29 PM

Rorschach said:

to add to what Woody said, rubber tires are not limited to a specific stretch of rail, they can go anywhere a car can, which means that if traffic is tied up or there is water on the roadbed or whatever, they can route around the trouble, or if population density changes, they can change routes without having to rip up the rail. Rail costs a lot of money, can only go where the rail is, and is extremely inflexible. rubber tired vehicles are far more flexible and far cheaper. I fail to understand the attraction to rail, it is sooo 19th century.....

# January 25, 2007 7:50 AM

Rorschach said:

On the subject of hybrids. Our less than intelligent Mayor has determined that the city must convert even more of it's fleet to hybrids. But there is a small problem with that. Hybrids cost far more than a conventionally powered vehicle that gets similar gas mileage. A couple years ago I did some back of the envelope energy balance calculations and realized that for the sticker cost of the Prius hybrids they were buying which got an estimated 60 MPG, they could buy Toyota Echos (which have been replaced by the Yaris now) which got an estimated 50 MPG, and pay for fuel and maintenance until the vehicle was no longer roadworthy and still have almost the same emissions reduction. I do hope that METRO is not buying into the same fallacious idea that White has.

# January 31, 2007 2:44 PM

Henry Ramsey said:

Can you tell us yet to which garages these new busses will be deployed?  The hybrids you have now were out of Polk Garage will West Garage be getting any?

# February 5, 2007 12:08 AM

Rorschach said:

So what truth is there to the rumor that since the stray current problems appear to be insurmountable, Metro is contemplating replacing the electrified tram powered from catenary wires with a deisel-electric hybrid locomotive?
# February 6, 2007 9:15 PM

Mary Sit said:

Here are some answers from Jim Cody, senior director of construction at METRO:

"Thanks for your comment. No, there is no truth to the rumor that the stray current problem is insurmountable. For your information, based in findings to date, neither Metro nor its third-party consultant,who are specialists in stray current issues, are concerned that stray electrical current is adversely affecting any structures along the length of the Main Street Rail Line.

"Concerning your question about replacement of the electric tram powered from catenary wires with a diesel-electric hybrid locomotive:

METRO has no such plans at this time."

# February 8, 2007 11:28 AM

Mary Sit said:

Henry Ramsy, regarding your question of which garages the hybrid buses will be deployed to:

"They will go to both West and Polk and perhaps another location. Final distribution and assignments are not yet completed," said John Walsh, senior director of bus maintenance at METRO.  

# February 8, 2007 11:34 AM

Rorschach said:

If the stray current problem is not insurmountable, why is it that you have been unable to surmount it? Instead of dealing forthrightly with the public, METRO has been in full CYA mode. Trotting out a non-technical PR person to comment on 9v batteries that apparently can supply 8000 amps (I want one of those in my smoke detector, I'd never have to replace it!). Ignoring TXPIA requests, or outright lying about the availability of data, denying reports exist that are known to exist, etc. Siemens has done everything they can think of but several of the red line segments are still leaking current far in excess of the standard, and others are marginal at best. Such evasiveness gives the public the impression that either you don't know HOW TO FIX the problem, or you are afraid that there really IS a problem and you are afraid of the legal liability, or perhaps both. It is my understanding that the mayor's office is quite upset at METRO and feels that METRO must take legal liability for COH infrastructure damaged by the stray current. Denying that there is a problem does not make the problem go away. METRO canceled the December Corrosion committee meeting, and has not rescheduled it. When do you plan on reconvening?
# February 11, 2007 9:43 PM

Silas1010 said:

Good post,

I agree with the general sentiment of this article, but I want to speak a little on an alternative method that doesn't get as much attention as it should. Making cars more expendable. Our overeliance on our own personal automobiles is what allows us to be slaves to the gas prices. When gas hits $5.00 a gallon (or more), savings from a different battery will be a drop in the bucket. For those of us who live in big cities or smaller urban areas, why not try using different modes of transportation? If you live, work or shop anywhere on the busline, start using that for a change. If you are only going a short distance and the weather permits, try riding a bike or even walking. If you live in a major metropolitan area, then the subway or a light rail is also another option. I live in a big city and as long as it's not freezing or raining I usually always walk anywhere within a 10 block radius. If I need to go to the grocery store and don't want to walk that far with a handful of bags, I'll take the bus. I ride my bike sometimes as well. If I need to travel farther distances, I do drive, but only when I have to. I have plenty of friends will drive to the store when it's only 2 and a half blocks a way. They waste gas by needlessly driving everywhere (no matter how close), yet they complain the loudest about spending all their money on gas. Of course, for those that live in the suburbs or rural areas, it may be more difficult. There are other options though. Carpooling, for example, is a great solution that enough people don't make use of in my opinion. Also if you happen to live in the suburbs or the country, simply making a more efficient use of your driving time would help in terms of gas costs. Try to make all your stops in one trip, and in the shortest route, that way you minimize the time of making trips to and from your house or apartment every single time you need to go out. Plan ahead and make all your trips at once. Gas costs money. New high technology batteries cost money. Hybrid cars costs money etc. But Carpooling can typically cut costs by as much as 4/5ths. A bicycle may cost a couple of hundred dollars up front, but it doesn't run on fuel. Bus passes are usually dirt cheap. Walking is always free. Try to make use of these when you can! You'll need to talk to others in your local communities to organize a carpool or get information regarding a bus pass, and walking requires no explanation, but for those thinking of giving a bicycle a try here is a good <a href="http://www.dealsdepot.com.au/a65/Finding-the-Best-Mountain-Bike/article_info.html">guide</a> that goes into detail about what to look for when picking out a bicycle. I wouldn't recommend purchashing a bicyle online -- you should probably visit your local bicycle retailer or large department store for a purchase like that. It's still a good idea to read about some of the differences between bikes and what to know about different speeds, frames, and sizes etc. Anyway, just thought I would pass that along. I enjoyed reading your post though. Very informative. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!

# June 4, 2007 12:16 AM
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